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The World’s Official Victim
How is it possible that Israel is “allowed” to act against human rights while pissing on conventions, starting with the one from Geneve? True, the official Tel Aviv has a support from Washington, but why is Israel by a rule always seen as a victim that is “just defending itself”? The explanations is quite tricky and sensible. The answer in “Grande parte” lies in the words of the former premier Ariel Sharon, which said: “Israel cannot commit crimes against Humanity since it’s habitants survived holocaust.” And it’s not about one politicians’s words, it’s about carefully cherished cult of historic victim, that is supported on the world’s level while Tel Aviv is skillfully using it for it’s own cause.
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February 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
But hamas has not rights to fire rockets on Israely territories and take food from palestinians and all money designated for palestinian people use for weapon. A lot of money was invested in gaza but all gone for terrorism hamas is terrorists and they must be destroyed,
They send people and women to commited suicide in one hand koran and in another hand granate they are animals just all animals .hamas are terrorists group and it must be destroyed and Israel has now alternatives as likvidate hamas and stop smuggling weapon in gaza and give palestinian people live normally .
February 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Sergey, you show a pure case of the beliveing that is causing all this…Hamas was sponsored and created by israel in order to “disturb” the power of PLo when that was the case…just like talibans are an amrican product…And I said Tel Aviv, as I had a discussion on the FB regarding where the foreign policis are orchestrated.
February 4th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
No, you’re wrong.
Hamas was created by Israel?! Taliban is an American product?!
Conspiracy theories often seem to ignore that facts.
February 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Could you find another solution for this conflict ?
February 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
The real problem is inside this two politic classes…in palestine people need a state and israel don’t like a palestine state…in israel they say that they need security…the only way to have security and peace is dialog war don’t give solutions but only death…then a personal reflection…you can’t use phosphorus bombs over the most popolate area of the world because this bombs don’t kill terrorists but they usually kills civilians and children!This is a real error!
February 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
No Sergey, all out war is the only obvious solution, HAHAHA!!
February 5th, 2009 at 9:38 am
LegolasGreenLeaf , Israel do recognize them and even gave them gaza but Hamas took all population of gaza as hostages and doesn’t recognize Israel !!! First of all hamas during 8 years fired rockets on israely terriotories Israel gave them gaza they continued to fired rocket and in israel also children died and women kindergarden imagine rockets fall everyday on your city forf 8 years . and they had everything gaza free develope yourself education , but their education is if you die you go to haven and 40 virgins ,moms very proud if their children goes to becopme hamasnik at age 5 and if he will die she will be proud is it normal ??? I think no. hamas must be destroyed. israel gave them opportunity 2 years ago when israely people leave gaza gave them opportunity to live to build country ! but they continued firing rockets why ??? so then israel began attacking gaza first of all blokade it didn’t help they continued firing rockets and after that forces. the more time hamas will be at power in gaza the more money will go for weapon and rockets and people in gaza will still be poor , hungry WHY ??? because all money goes to hamas to buy weapon,
watch on yutube about hamas and you will see the real truth. Anyway also they say that only civilians die, it is more hamas terrorist die because they do not say that terrorist killed they want pressure on israel so it is better that they say that not hamasnik died but civilian it is also their propagand. People in gaza innocent people of hamas hostages of hamas. and hamas this is the problem and it must be destroed. after that will be country for gaza borders opened. until they continued smuggling weapons borders will be closed.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I can understand whot you mean but no war is good!The problem is politic!as always!No one of them have the reason!Isreael was under attak…but mossad knows who are the terrorists and where they are…so…why they discrtuct civilian structure of Onu?or why they used phosphorus bombs in the gihest density part of the entire world?have you ever seen the damage that phosporus makes over a body?so…hamas people are terrorists they have no reason to attak israel(if all of them continue on this way they can’t have peace!so they can’t have a paestine state!),but israel have no reason to use this kind of weapons or use them over ONU places!In one word war is like shit!In wars the only ones that dies everiday are civilians this is the same in all conflicts!
February 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am
My apologies for bringing up an ealier point, but concerning Hamas and the Taliban as products of their opponents:
I can’t speak about Hamas, although I heard rumors Israel may have taken steps to help Hamas gain influence over the “greater evil” of the PLO. Just rumors though. But I really want to talk about the Taliban.
America creating the Taliban and Osama bin Laden, if not all of al Queda, is not a crackpot conspiracy theory, it is a fact.
America supported Afghanistan against the Soviets in the eighties. America then abandoned Afghanistan in the ninties. The Taliban filled the void left by the Americans. The Afghan military were originally supplied and trained by the American military. It’s not a stretch to conclude the U.S. is the Frankenstein that created the Taliban.
As for the Gaza incident… civilians shooting rockets at civilian targets seems more like a criminal situation than a military problem. If all the people involved were rational adults, then the police and military forces of Gaza and Isreal would work together to capture and prosecute these criminals who are causing both Israeli and Palestinian suffering and death.
And while I’m dreaming, I’d like a million dollars and a trophy wife.
February 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
This is a real hard problem as all wars!Is real hard to discuss about this!Whot do you think of Englaro case Anekee?do you like to open a thread on this modern question?
February 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
purtroppo questo post non è in italiano ma in inglese e non ci capisco quasi nulla di ciò che vi si dice…ma mi sembra di capire che forse qui si stia parlando della questione (problematica) israeliana e spero di non essermi sbagliato…
Secondo il mio punto di vista, il “problema israeliano” è vecchio come il popolo israeliano stesso, quindi per capire meglio il loro “modus vivendi” sarebbe meglio tornare indietro nel tempo fin dai loro albori più di 5000 anni fa, partendo dal nipote di Abramo, Giacobbe poi chiamatosi Israele in seguito ad una circostanza descritta nella Genesi (che non sto qui a raccontare per non annoiare oltre…), padre di dodici figli dai quali sono nate le dodici tribù che tutti sappiamo. Il libro dell’Esodo è a tutti gli effetti una esauriente dimostrazione di quanto questo popolo sia combattivo, vendicativo, provocatore ed invasore; un chiaro esempio è il modo con cui sono entrati nella cosiddetta “terra promessa” che poi altro non era che la Palestina di oggi, abitata da millenni da popolazioni pacifiche dedite all’agricoltura ed alla pastorizia piuttosto che alla guerra…e da allora il loro modo di fare non è cambiato per nulla, e non cambierà certo adesso né mai.
February 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Hi Nemesath, can you please (at least try to) speak english please…
February 8th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Hello Anekee,
it is interesting to see how things work here. What is the meta layer of this discussion? Is this a discussion at all, since most members seem to lavish comliance on each other? Why do these things need to be said in a place like this? What is the personal interest of Anekee to launch this talk? What benefits is she seeking for? What are the motivatons for others to write here? I think Anekee gave men (most cases…) another battlefield in this blog. The “palestinan issue” does not seem to be a marginal topic and if you ask people in Europe on the street, the tendency will be strong to blame Israel or the US for the poor conditions of Palestinian people. Why is everybody so concerned about this particular conflict and why are people in western communitees fighting as acrimoniously in discussions, instead taking a look also on other conflicts? Taking any role in this whole discussion can make us aware how we are part of the problem ourselves. Nice manoeuvre, Anekee.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
First thing right out of the gate, Hi everybody!, this is my first “contribution” to this blog, therefore a greeting line was necessary, I suppose.
As I look out of the window, here in my place on the shores of beautiful Lago di Lugano in Northern Italy, I realize that I will never be able to fully understand all that has been going on in the Middle East Area over the last 61 years; the reason being simple, Italy is a whole different planet compared to Israel and his neighbours. I’m just 32 now, but I already know I will never understand. I completed my studies in History, yet I know I don’t understand. I have been in Israel two times, in Haifa and Tel-Aviv…and still, I just don’t get it. Why? Because I do not think there is one “right” side and a “wrong” one in this issue. I can accept that the “original sin” was on Israel’s behalf, but it was not Israel’s fault. It was the Allies who thought Jewish needed some sort of retribution for the pain they had been put through during Hitler’s reign of terror, and the worst thing they came up with this concept of a Sionist entity to be created out of nowhere in the land we now acknowledge as Israel.Yes, I know that the creation of Israel was the consequence of the migration of thousands of Jewish back to their “promise land”…but, least you forget, those were people who had lost literally everything during WWII, and their moving to former Palestine cannot be condemned, as we cannot condemn people that today land on our shores from North Africa trying to escape hunger and civil wars. Back on track, I can understand Palestinians harboring grudge feelings towards those Jewish “invaders” back in 1948…hey, none of us would like to be forced out of his home, right? All of this, I understand. But that was 1948, now we are in 2009 and many bad things have occured down there over these 61 years.Many horrible crimes perpetrated by both sides. As of today, there is no more one right and one wrong. Dear Anekee, I am very aware of “the power of big tits over the intellectual discussion”, and my heart is lacerated by the mere fact of not completely agreeing with such a gracious and – may I add – intelligent lady as you are, but I do think that those conspiracy theories you came up with fall short in explaining the situation of Israel…or any other crucial part of our world, for that matter.I know those theories are seductive to say the very least – maybe Jim Morrison is still alive and well somewhere, and I’d be happy – but I ‘m just not gonna buy it. Anyway, all of us are entitled to have an opinion about this – or other -matters; just, I do not think that taking such a one-sided position will ever help the ongoing struggle for peace in Middle East that, I believe, should be the priority for all of us. All of this being said, I have to go…bye! Pietro
February 10th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Anakee, et al,
It’s interesting to see the different sides on this issue…
First of all, let’s not forget that the Christians see Palestine as the home of the original Philistines of the Bible…
While, as a Pagan of the new order, I have no historical-emotional baggage on this point…
But, the religious right of the US and other countries see their alliance with the Israel state as their fight against what is their idea of anarchy, which they abhor… especially since the events of Sept. 11…
This is one of the reasons why Bush and his compatriots were so adamant in their pursuit of their anti-Moslem campaign…
But, the main reason behind all this posturing is money…
Money and greed… The Bush clan is allied with the Hunt family of Texas, one of the most powerful secret groups in the US…
It is by no accident that the bin Laden famiy were tied very closely to the Bush clan and their financial, oil-laundering activities and were secretly rushed out of the country when the 911 happened…
Osama is a rebellious child of the bin Laden family whose imperatives are more closely allied with the big-money concerns of the “New World Order”…
He obviously saw himself not only as a religious leader, but a rebel against what they saw as greedy usurpers of Islam…
Never forget that Saddam Hussein, along with many others, were instilled into their positions of authority by the forces of the West…
Once they’ve outlived their usefulness or become too comfortable with their power, out they go!
The middle East has seen conflict for thousands of years… Any student of history will know that the Moslem/Islamic world has always had an inner hatred for Europe and the West since the Crusades…
The Islamic Empires of the past were largely responsible for the resurgence of sanity and culture in Western Europe after the dark ages…
Since their alignment with what they see as the new Zionist state, Islam has had a problem with that alliance and all it foretells…
It is a thorn in the side of the modern Moslem and a slap in the face of any Easterner…
China, too, had a hand in the acculturation of the West and yet sees their contributions ignored…
The pogrom against Chinese immigrants in the US early in the 20th Century did not sit well with the oriental sense of balance…
As long as the US and their allied counterparts in Europe use a gunboat diplomacy, instead of truly trying to iron out the differences in other parts of the world, the conflict will continue…
And… that policy is fueled by greed… money and greed…
February 13th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
We can go round and round on this, and indeed it is a cycle of violence that seems to have no ending. I know this:
1) Hamas is guilty of terrorist acts for firing rockets into civilian areas.
2) Israel is guilty of war crimes for targeting civilians in retaliation for the actions of Hamas.
In the words of Kurt Vonnegut: “So it goes…”
February 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Infact the only mode to have peace is dialogue and make good politics!without war and expansions desires…that’s the only solution to stop all revolutions and have peace!
February 17th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
let’s wrench the power from all those “boss” worldwide! or eager politicians will keep on making wars and any disaster! This will be the solution, but have to wait ’til we grow up.
yours, Sarastro
“Stirb Ungeheur, durch unsre Macht!
Triumph! Triumph! Sie ist vollbracht
Die Heldentat. Er ist befreit
Durch unsres Armes Tapferkeit”
February 21st, 2009 at 1:59 am
It’s difficult to argue with Israel (or Jews for that matter). As soon as their arguments come to an end, you’ll have the never ending story rubbed in your face again and again… You know, which one I’m talking about
March 10th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The problem is the state, as always. Please take a look at this:
http://mises.org/story/3285
March 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Hi Anekee when you will make a new post?^_^
problems are always politic ones!as always!
March 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
But do Aneeke/the admin lie hidden?
Why don’t we speak ’bout the south africa and dalai lama?
PS the image
http://www.anekee.com/frmmain.asp?plug=si
is WONDERFUL! I haven’t seen well before!
April 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
instead of futile discussions i’d prefer some updates on http://www.anekee.com.
it seems there is nothing new since january ….
April 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I’d expect something more original on this argument. Politics and diplomacy clearly failed, and will ever fail. It’s rationality that start wars, and try to sanate them with it is like to try to sew a tissue already weaker than the yarn used. It just creates new, bigger, tears. No politics. Palestina is a cursed place. If I lived there, I’d just go elsewere. People there fight for crimes done against their (grand)fathers. This has no sense. It is a problem of money? Well. A good solution should be a fund for people that would go away from that hell. In my opinion, that’s the best way. Without innocents to sacrifice, the conflict would collapse.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
where is Anekee? :°°°°°
May 18th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Anekee is a very powerful woman. Her power comes from her body, but she has a very smart brain, too. I think it’s frustrating for her that men see her boobs and just stop short in their tracks, and can’t concentrate on what she’s saying. Ask any beautiful woman and they’ll tell you, “beauty is a trap”.
I think she has to figure out how to reconcile her thoughts with her physical appearance. It may not be possible, and it certainly won’t be easy.
That’s just one man’s opinion.
I also wonder about her social life…
May 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
She wants a hero, not a zero!
September 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
hello Anekee,
not in facebook anymore ?
October 28th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Banned for the second time, let’s ee if this one is a good one then. I just restarted my profile for the third time…but don’t loose time there…here is where I like it.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
How can you get banned on facebook, you posted n00dz in public or something?? Tell me about it…
I had a twitter account for like 2 hours, but I destroyed the account, was getting spam and didn’t like the experience.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:48 am
[...] Anekee’s Blog » The World’s Official Victim blog.anekee.com/?p=59#more-59 – view page – cached How is it possible that Israel is “allowed” to act against human rights while pissing on conventions, starting with the one from Geneve? True, the official Tel Aviv has a support from Washington,… Read moreHow is it possible that Israel is “allowed” to act against human rights while pissing on conventions, starting with the one from Geneve? True, the official Tel Aviv has a support from Washington, but why is Israel by a rule always seen as a victim that is “just defending itself”? The explanations is quite tricky and sensible. The answer in “Grande parte” lies in the words of the former premier Ariel Sharon, which said: “Israel cannot commit crimes against Humanity since it’s habitants survived holocaust.” And it’s not about one politicians’s words, it’s about carefully cherished cult of historic victim, that is supported on the world’s level while Tel Aviv is skillfully using it for it’s own cause. Read less [...]
November 7th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Oh I see, don’t tell me this is the reason you got kicked of facebook.
I have a friend telling me that facebook terms and conditions smelled like this. So I’m not surprised… he prefers Twitter.
November 9th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
No, Fb is fine…for advertising. However i was pushing the bar too much. I will keep the profile and FB Fan Club “clean” of nooodz and safe from anarchic themes and this politically correct behaviour will translate in to along lasting partnership…
November 9th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Dear members, please, get an avatar…it’s easy, just send a desired pic to a anekeeblog@gmail.com. …it’s so much easier for everybody to follow.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I agree completely with you Anekee. This America protecting Israel should stop, once and forever. We all know the holocaust was awful, but it were not only the Jews who suffered from the Germans, there were way more minorities who were killed and are the protected by big brother? NO!
November 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I have to agree with a lot said, here. Where are some recent postings? Oh, I know, you’re probably a busy lass, but if your preference is this site, there’s no better way to keep coming back than having updates to potential discussions on a regular basis. (Of course, the pictures at the top of each discussion isn’t a bad method, either.)
November 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Hehe…so here we are, experiencing USA pressing on Iran because PERHAPS Iran MIGHT get in THE FUTURE to a nuclear level (and let’s not forget that Iran in recent 100 years never attacked another country)
WHILE
Israel is absolutely untouchable in it’s nuclear arsneal, under protection od USA immune to any inspection of the same or not called by international community to reveal the nature and quantity of the nuclear arsenal…the only leak recently was Carter who under pressure of “how many more or less than 100?” answered “many” and than that there “are more than 100 nuk heads” there. This is the only info we get about Israel.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:35 am
The US is not concerned about the political standings of other governments. They’re handling their own affairs. I can understand where the government stance is, in the fact that they are entitled to support the government of a country and not some militia group. But, that’s a different argument. Yes, let’s be honest, America is looking out for it’s own concerns, as they well should! The only reason they’re concerned about Iran is because it is believed that the government is too weak to keep true to a nuclear policy and that militia groups will get hold of the nuclear arms and could pose a real threat to America, whereas the country of Israel is not seen as the same threat. This is also why we’re walking the boarders between North and South Korea.
You want attention on Israel… Make them a viable threat to the Western civilization. As long as they’re just having problems within themselves, they’ll continue to have to handle it on their own.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Welcome back Anekee i have add you on facebook too eheheh too many time you have been delete!
I hope to read some more news here from you!you are always the top one!
February 16th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Hi! This is my first comment in this blog, i was trying to read all the comments about this issue, and about it, i want to say: All this thing is a fucking shit. Some says it´s correct and some says it´s not, i prefer to say that history tells us what is wrong and what is right and that is a fact. We just need to see it, along the history of mankind the only thing who gives us something to learn, were the mistakes we made in the past. The human being never learns from his errors and that´s why we are all victims of our own existence.
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Israel has one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington D.C.; while it is undesirable that these interest groups have so much sway of the government, it is also disengenuous to blame the whole the people and the states of the union for the governments position on this one (very serious but still) secondary issue.
Wordpress won’t let me load a avatar – sending one in.
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 pm
I cannot believe i am being diverted from your boobs by your brain, they are both quite impressive. The comments are spot on, it is however important not to get sentimental about the Hamas leadership, if they had such a cult i am sure they would use it as a method of controlling ordinary people. War and conflict, policies these leaders are not afraid to use, are not in the interests of the ordinary working people of Israel or Palestine, it is however so difficult to get this accross. Of course in this situation Israel are the bully’s in view of their military superiority, and the Palestinian people have a right to fight back for their land and lives……
Anyway, nice brains
March 26th, 2010 at 5:09 am
jews dont trust the muslims because the muslims hate the jews and they somehow have to share a city
the problem is made worse by religious zealots of both stripes
interference by foreign countries
politicians aka bullshit
good luck